Seed Variation Baseline — What Changes and What Doesn't with the Same Prompt

Seed Variation Baseline — What Changes and What Doesn't with the Same Prompt

Conclusions

Attributes Controllable via Prompt (Stable Against Seed Variation)

AttributeStabilityConditions
Composition (framing/angle)9/9When scene description tags are specific
Body orientation / gaze direction9/9With tags like looking out window, looking at viewer
Expression9/9With tags like smiling, gentle expression
Posture9/9With tags like standing, sitting
Clothing color and shape9/9With specific descriptions like beige oversized knit sweater
Hair color9/9Stable even without specification for “japanese woman”
Lighting direction and quality9/9With tags like natural overcast daylight through glass
Object holding9/9With tags like holding cotton candy
Style (polaroid, etc.)8/9High stability but not 100%

Attributes Randomized Per Seed (Hard to Control)

AttributeVariationNotes
Face (appearance)Different person each timeVaries within “young Japanese woman” range
Clothing pattern/detailsDifferent each timeColor and shape are controllable, but patterns are unstable
Background specific contentDifferent each time“Café” is stable, but “which café” changes every time
Presence/type of accessoriesDifferent each timeItems on table like cups are random when unspecified
Hair lengthMinor variationRanges from medium to semi-long
Specific hand position2–3 patternsHand on cheek vs lap, one hand vs two

Key Findings

1. “Specified attributes are stable; unspecified attributes are randomized”

This is the clearest pattern. Specifying beige oversized knit sweater reproduces it in 9/9, but if you don’t specify clothing in a simple prompt, all 9 images have different outfits.

2. white background is ignored by the model

All 9 images produced gray-to-brown wall + floor backgrounds. z-image-turbo strongly tends to output dataset-style backgrounds for standing person photos — white background is not an effective instruction.

3. Faces cannot be controlled

A different person is generated every time. The broad category of “young Japanese woman” is stable, but individual facial features depend entirely on the seed.

4. Implications for Future Experiments

When comparing two prompts without fixed seeds, the following attribute differences are within seed variation range and cannot be attributed to prompt changes:

  • Differences in facial features
  • Differences in clothing patterns
  • Differences in specific background content
  • Minor hair length differences (bob to semi-long)
  • Differences in hand position (hand on cheek vs lap)
  • Minor overall color tone differences (warm to cool neutral)

Conversely, the following attribute changes are more likely to be effects of prompt changes:

  • Composition (full body vs bust-up, etc.)
  • Body orientation or gaze direction
  • Type of expression
  • Lighting direction or quality
  • Changes in clothing color or shape
  • Presence or absence of specific objects

Purpose of This Experiment

In AI image generation, different seeds (random number seeds) produce different images even with the same prompt. So when you see a difference after changing a prompt element — is it a prompt change effect or just natural seed variation?

Without this baseline, claims like “removing this element changed the image” don’t hold up. This experiment generates 9 images with the same prompt but different seeds and observes what’s stable and what varies.

Experiment Conditions

ParameterValue
Modelz-image-turbo (6B, photorealistic distilled model)
Steps8
Samplereuler
Schedulerddim_uniform
CFG1.0
Image Size1024×1024
Seeds9 random seeds per prompt

Prompts Used

3 prompts were prepared, with scene description specificity varying incrementally.

A: Simple (10 tokens)
1girl, 22yo japanese woman, white background, standing, smiling
B: Medium (17 tokens)
1girl, 22yo japanese actress, small cafe window seat, natural overcast daylight through glass, beige oversized knit sweater, sitting, looking out window, gentle natural expression.
C: Complex (25 tokens)
polaroid photo, 1girl, 20yo japanese woman, yukata, holding cotton candy, summer festival, food stalls blurred in background, warm golden hour light, gentle smile, looking at viewer.

A: Simple Prompt Results

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Observations

AttributeStabilityDetails
Subject positionStableAll 9 in the center of the frame
PostureStableAll 9 standing upright
ExpressionStableAll 9 showing teeth in a smile
Hair colorStableAll 9 dark brown with bangs
LightingStableAll 9 with soft frontal light
FramingVariableFull body: 7 / Waist to knee: 2
Hair lengthVariableBob to shoulder: 4 / Semi-long: 5
Hand positionVariableSides: 6 / Clasped in front: 3
ClothingLarge variationAll 9 different clothes (dress, T-shirt + skirt, blouse + jeans, etc.)
BackgroundLarge variationDespite white background spec, all 9 produced gray-to-brown walls

Simple Prompt Characteristics

  • Specified attributes (subject, age, posture, expression) reproduced stably
  • Unspecified attributes (clothing) completely randomized per seed
  • white background was ignored by the model — all 9 images show a studio wall + floor background. The model strongly tends toward this type of background for standing person photos
  • Faces are not the same person but are similar (rounder face, larger eyes)

B: Café Snapshot Prompt Results

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Observations

AttributeStabilityDetails
FramingStableAll 9 bust-up to waist-up
Camera angleStableAll 9 slightly from left front
Body orientation / gazeStableAll 9 facing the window (right)
ExpressionStableAll 9 calm and natural expressions
Sweater color/shapeStableAll 9 beige, oversized, crew-neck
Hair color/bangsStableAll 9 dark brown with bangs
Light direction/qualityStableAll 9 soft diffused light from window (left)
Hand poseVariableHand on cheek: 3 / On lap or table below: 6
Hair lengthVariableMedium: 4 / Semi-long: 5
Color toneVariableWarm: 3 / Neutral: 4 / Cool neutral: 2
Café interiorLarge variationAll 9 different cafés (window frame, chairs, lighting, walls all different)
Outside window viewLarge variationStreet tree type, buildings, car placement all different every time
Table accessoriesLarge variationNone / smartphone / coffee cup / iced latte / glass / etc.

Café Prompt Characteristics

  • Scene description tags powerfully lock in composition — all 9 images consistently match “sitting at window, looking outside” composition and angle
  • Sweater color and shape perfectly reproduced — clothing is stable when specified concretely
  • On the other hand, unspecified details (café interior, outside view, accessories) are completely different every time
  • Faces are different people every time, but within the “young Japanese woman” range

Note: beige oversized knit sweater appearing in all 9 out of 9 images underscores how much prompt specificity matters.

C: Summer Festival Polaroid Prompt Results

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Observations

AttributeStabilityDetails
Subject positionStableAll 9 near center of frame
FramingStableAll 9 waist-up to bust-up
Body orientationStableAll 9 mostly facing forward
Gaze directionStableAll 9 toward camera (faithful to looking at viewer)
ExpressionStableAll 9 smiling or gentle smile
Holding cotton candyStableAll 9 holding cotton candy
Wearing yukataStableAll 9 in yukata (white to cream base)
Food stalls in backgroundStableAll 9 include food stall depictions
Warm-toned lightingStable8 out of 9 warm-toned (1 slightly cooler)
Polaroid white frameStable8 out of 9 have frame (1 is square film style)
Hair styleVariableDown style: 7 / Updo: 2
Aspect ratioVariablePortrait: 7 / Landscape: 2
Cotton candy position/holdVariableOne hand: 4 / Two hands: 5. Position distributed left/center/right
Yukata patternLarge variationFloral is common but color, size, density different every time
Obi (sash) colorLarge variationPurple, pink, gold, dark green, etc.
Polaroid presentationVariableLaid on fabric: 6 / Held in hand: 1 / Background continues outside frame: 1 / No frame: 1

Summer Festival Prompt Characteristics

  • Style keyword polaroid photo reproduced frame in 8/9 — high stability but not 100%
  • holding cotton candy reproduced in 9/9 — object holding specifications are very stable
  • Yukata base color (white to cream) is stable, but pattern and obi change each timeyukata alone doesn’t control the pattern
  • 1 image produced a square film style (no frame) — polaroid interpreted as “film photo in general”

Note: The rule “specified attributes are stable, unspecified attributes are random” came through clearly. Write attributes explicitly if you don’t want variation across a batch; leave them unspecified if you want variety. This distinction is fundamental for future experiments.